= SmartPhantom meeting: Wednesday 11^th^ June 2019, 16:00 = == Meeting details == Teleconference Phone details: {{{ UK: 08082 380274 Austria: 0800 006612 PIN: 5904750902 }}} Full list of telephone contacts may be found [https://ccap.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/Communication/Z0-Phone-details.pdf here]. == Agenda: == 1. Notes and actions from [wiki:Research/Instrumentation/Meetings/2019/06-05 last meeting]: * **AK** agreed to find minimum bending radius; * **LC** will consider options for stopping the unravelling during manufacture. * **AK,KL** place an order for clear fibre * **HT** check use of (e.g.) 50 micron aluminium in simulation * **JB** supply printed circuit board spec 2. Design update: LC \\ * [raw-attachment:image001.jpg Winding jig.] 3. Simulation update: HTL \\ * [raw-attachment:image001.jpg Winding jig.] 4. Optical readout considerations: JB \\ 5. Next steps 6. DONM 7. AoB == Notes: == **Present:** JB, KL, AK, HT, LC 1. Notes and actions from [wiki:Research/Instrumentation/Meetings/2019/06-05 last meeting]: * **AK** agreed to find minimum bending radius; * Stands: Not yet established. AL will ask Saint Gobain when placing order for clear fibre. * **LC** will consider options for stopping the unravelling during manufacture. * LC took advice from J.Tarrant. Hard to implement a clamp. Idea to try double-sided tape to lock fibre down. LC also consulted Inspection Lab staff. They have a concept to print the bushes. They will inspect what is made. * **AK,KL** place an order for clear fibre * Stands. AK agreed to place the order. * **HT** check use of (e.g.) 50 micron aluminium in simulation * Agenda item. * **JB** supply printed circuit board spec * Done. Specifications sent to LC. 2. Design update: LC \\ * [raw-attachment:image001.jpg Winding jig.] * Agreed to adopt 25mm minimum bending radius. Implies that specs of winding jig needs to be revised. * We **//agreed//** to move to building prototype winding gear. **LC** will produce drawings so that we can go out for quote. Imperial w/s and R12 to be considered in quoting process. * LC consulted Resin Lab. Recommendation to heat Araldite 2011 to 40-degrees. Equivalently, could use Araldite 2014 -- similar properties, but grey. Resin Lab can mix black Araldite. * Discussion of material for frame and potting scheme. Some preference for carbon fibre and black epoxy floated on the doublet layer to support and to exclude light. 3. Simulation update: HTL \\ * [raw-attachment:HTL_FilmMaterialComparison.pdf​ Slides.] * **//Agreed//** **HT** would do simulation with fibres potted in Araldite. * JB asks for estimate of photons per second and photons per spill to help him specify readout. **HT** will try and estimate from simulation. * HT's estiamte of particle rate: * Proton rate 10^9; Carbon 10^8 in a 5s spill. **HT** will find out the rep rate. * JB: corrolary: what is the light yield of the source that we'll used to characterise the planes. Need to inject representative electron beam in simlation (**HT**). 4. Optical readout considerations: JB \\ * JB will propose an optical readout scheme when an estimate of light o/p has been made. We **//agreed//** that readout specification would be made within a month. 5. Next steps * Goal is to carry out the actions agreed above and be ready to make initial winding trials in one month. 6. DONM * 25Jun19: 11:00 7. AoB * HTL: Simulation generates energy deposition rather thann light yeild. We agreed to use MICE prescription to move from energy to light. **Actions:** * **AK:** Establish minimum bending radius. * **AK:** Place an order for clear fibre. * **LC:** Produce drawings for quote. * **HT:** Simulate doublet layers potted in Araldite. * **HT:** Try and estimate light yield from simulation. * **HT:** Find MedAustron rep rate. * **HT:** Inject 90Sr electrons to estimate test-rig light yeild.