Changes between Version 3 and Version 4 of Research/LhARA/RadiationBiology/Meetings/2026-04-16

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Apr 16, 2026, 4:27:31 PM (5 weeks ago)

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ccd24

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Research/LhARA/RadiationBiology/Meetings/2026-04-16

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 **ZOOM:** https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1 
 
-== Meeting Agenda == 
+Attended: AFr, RW, JMcG, KL, CW, MH, TP, PH, CD, EM, JP
+
+== Meeting Notes == 
 
 1. BioPrep
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 4. Improving the Beamline
  - CD: LET plots for different energies
-  - [raw-attachment: 
+  - [raw-attachment:DoseandLET_vs_Energy.pptx​ Slides]
   - Minimum Energy required to reach the cells is 3MeV with 10um Cu scatterer and 2.5MeV without the scatterer
   - The minimum energy to aim for should be 7MeV
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-
 5. Collaboration Meeting
- - Who can attend?
+ - Neither Robbie nor Ben will be there
  - Presentations 
+  - Obvious one is the results from Phase 2
+   - This should include the next steps for making a publication
+  - Subsequent presentation should also include a programme looking forward from October to a couple of years.
+   - Include ELIMED
+   - Include how to collect reference data
+   - Include comparison with electrons? 
+    - Need to be clear as to the question this answers, if we do include it in the plan
  - https://indico.stfc.ac.uk/event/1783/
-
-Presentation should also include the next steps for making a publication
-
-
-Think through the programme we should be executing from October and a couple of years and include ELIMED, including development of SCAPA
-
-Reference data and how we can collect that
-Do we want to compare with electrons
-Marie has an interest in this as well
-Why compare with electrons
-X-rays are a transport for electrons
-Compare with VHEE electrons where LETs is less than X-rays
-What is the specific question that is being addressed
-Bio results usually have 10% error
-
-Robbie not avilable and Ben is also gone. Discuss talks to be done
 
 6. IPAC Contribution
  - 3/4 of a page on the beamline and results
- - Overlap with laser-driven source
+ - Robbie has said he will write a first draft since he has a paper coming out as well
 
-5. DoNM 
+6. DoNM 
  - 14/05/26
 
-6. AoB 
-
-ELIMED proposal 
-Discussion needed to help answer ELIMED's questions
-One of them was that no clear distinction from LhARA
-Reliant on their faciliteis. Is there a facility nearby we can use?
-Hold a meeting to discuss ELIMED's questions and how to answer them
-Robbie might know someone local
-
-Could take bio to the building
-Portable incubators
-Take a centrifuge
-Portable flow hood
-
-Also if we do DNA damage response 
-
-Deadline is 22nd April
-
-https://up.eli-laser.eu/call/8th-call-for-users-5pk2js
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-https://up.eli-laser.eu/instrument/elimaia-AyTTqw
-
-Emma is the corrindator for this
-
+7. AoB 
+ - ELIMED proposal 
+  - Emma is the coordinator for this
+  - Deadline 22nd April
+  - Discussion needed to deal with their problems with the application
+  - Solution to bio-facilities:
+   - Nearby facility to use?
+    - Robbie might know someone
+   - Portable bio kit
+   - Do DNA damage rather than clonogenics as it's less time intensive on their kit
+  - https://up.eli-laser.eu/call/8th-call-for-users-5pk2js
+  - https://up.eli-laser.eu/instrument/elimaia-AyTTqw
 
 === Summary of actions required ===
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 - **JMcG**: Simulate BELLA
 - **JMcG**: Talk to ELI people and simulate ELI
-- Build a bid towards ELI
+- **EM**: Coordinate ELIMED big
 
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