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    55== Agenda ==
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    7 1. General Discussion
    8  - Robbie mentioned that beamtime might be more likely in February.
    9  - Colin believes we might be able to get some time in Autumn if we can time it correctly with other beamtime.
    10  - There is work where the SCAPA team are using AI and looking at the variability of the laser.
    11  - Colin to discuss with Robbie how to build the setup with another experiment
     71. Overview of Current Plan
     8 - Three main problems are:
     9  - Spatial variation
     10  - Shot-to-shot variation
     11  - Survival of the control cells
     12 - Solutions:
     13  - Move the scatterer further up the beamline (closer to the laser-target).
     14  - Use a real-time diagnostic
     15  - Investigate how long the cells survive and the cause of death
     16 - Additions:
     17  - Collect more biology results?
     18 - When?:
     19  - Robbie mentioned February
     20  - Need to be ready to latch onto any downtime of other experiments
     21 - More information: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTARVtxhLRu02S6CLdRDB2QlGvCqDfZ3aWBifjIFs_Q/edit?tab=t.0
     22 - Steps required: Below and at https://trello.com/invite/b/67587c515b0c69656ee78b48/ATTIe86f94b24e3e5884e4cb87e5ed3b89ab64321B83/poplar
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    13242. Instrumentation
    14  - General
    15   - Colin suggested filling the carousel and running 1 shot then repeating with 2 shots etc
    16   - Each cell dish would have Lanex around it or something for real-time measurement
    17   - Then we could skip the calibration stage by comparing the variation in the Lanex signal with the known variation in dose
    18   - Problems involve the number of cells needing to be collected and the time that would take
    19   - Needs discussion with bio team
    20  - SciFi
    21   - Need to actually test whether the transporting fibre will scintillate
    22   - Operate on the assumption it does not
    23   - If it does Peter has ordered hollow-fibre
    24   - Might be able to use a standrad fibre-optic connector
    25  - ICT
    26   - Colin has ICTs
    27   - 3-5ns rise time, so should see the short pulses but on the edge of visible and may be blurred out
    28   - 0.1V in signal per Amp in beam current
    29   - Beam would also need to be roughly symmetric, so has to be after the scatterer
    30   - There is also a smaller, more sensitive ICT we could use
    31   - Also possibilities with 3D printing
     25 - Options:
     26  - Sparse scintillating fibre arrays in the vacuum chamber
     27  - Scintillating fibre around the cell dish
     28  - Lanex around the cell dish
     29  - Integrated Current Transformers (ICTs)
     30  - Laser Diagnostics (Backscatter etc)
     31  - Replace the scatterer with a scintillating sheet
     32  - (RCF around the cell dish (if desperate))
     33 - Testing style:
     34  - Calibrate with RCF?
     35  - No calibration. Use lots of cell dishes and match the distribution of variation in diagnostic output to the "known" distribution of the shot-to-shot variation
     36 - LET Detector
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    33 3. Overview of Trello
    34  - Reminder plan is laid out in the google doc and can be changed
    35  - Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/67587c515b0c69656ee78b48/ATTIe86f94b24e3e5884e4cb87e5ed3b89ab64321B83/poplar
    36  - Planning next SCAPA Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTARVtxhLRu02S6CLdRDB2QlGvCqDfZ3aWBifjIFs_Q/edit?usp=sharing
     383. BioPrep
     39 - Spatial Variation: Is a CV of 8% acceptable?
     40 - Cell Control Survival:
     41  - Need to test how long cells can remain vertical
     42  - Can reduce the time taken to conduct the irradiations (and therefore the time the cells are vertical for)
     43  - Monitor the temperature of the thermostat
     44 - Better instrumentation:
     45  - Inverted microscope
     46  - Multi-chamber haemocytometer
     47 - More results:
     48  - Standard is clonogenics
     49  - Marie's Lab can do comet analyses
     50  - They could also do an X-ray comparison on-site
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    38 4. DoNM
    39  - 23/07/26
     524. Beamline Modelling
     53 - Currently some discrepancies between simulation and experiment
     54  - Reproduce the source more accurately
     55  - Reproduce the beam variations
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    41 5. AoB
     575. Larger LhARA Biology Plan
     58 - JMcG: Presentation
     59 - General Discussion
     60
     615. DoNM
     62 - 06/08/26
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     646. AoB
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