wiki:Research/LhARA/RadiationBiology/Meetings/2026-10-01

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LhARA Radiobiology Meeting: 01Oct26; 14:00 BST

ZOOM: ​https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1

Attended: KL, MH, CW, TP, SdL, PB, RH, RA, FA, CD

Meeting Notes

  1. Alternate Beamlines
    • ELIMED part of the next ELI submission
      • There appear to be calls for ELIMED every year
    • 20th October 12:00 (noon)
      • Unlikely to make this deadline
      • Cannot make a submission repeating the same missing details
    • BUT:
      • Calvin to share the document
      • Ken and Josie to nudge the bioplan into action
  1. BioPrep
    • Alex seen SCAPA
      • Yes and transwells have been agreed to be the best way forward
    • Transwells
      • Cost ~£1000
    • February puts the bio team on a timetable
    • Need a stronger bio/SCAPA presence at these meetings
      • Colin to reach out to Marie
      • Colin to reach out to the SCAPA team to confirm February is our goal
  1. Instrumentation
    • RCF
      • Updates on delaminated EBT4
        • No longer sold unless for 100 boxes or more
        • Need 35 more boxes to get an order
      • Mark found a different type of film
        • Tony has requested a free sample to check it out
        • Tony has two master's students on cmos and can compare to the new film
    • SciFi
      • Construction pad is built
      • Appears to be no sensitivity to rotation of the array (as expected)
    • Thin wall ion chamber
      • On-line detector uses protons
      • Thin window (10s of um of Mylar)
      • Concern is mainly recombination at the time of ionisation because of the intense pulse
        • Will still see a residual ionisation
    • Diamond detector
      • Off-line using the electrons
      • Need a better understanding of the electrons to understand its feasibility
    • Richard to discuss thin wall detectors and diamond detectors at a Tuesday meeting
    • Calorimeter
      • Measure the energy by measuring the temperature change in graphite
      • Most stable and understood measure of dose
      • If we had £10K can ask the same company NPL asked to make a transcal detector thin enough for our energies
      • Sam Flynn's detector that has been discussed before
      • Longer term benefit is thatthey're known compared with something like air fluoresence which is not as well known
    • Further discussion:
      • Need to group these diagnostics into:
        • In-beam beamline diagnostics
        • Dosimetry run at the same time as cells. Measuring the dose in the cells. eg ion-acoustic
        • Measuring the dose of the low-energy beams to establish stability
      • As always, beamtime available in Birmingham
        • Ken, Simon, Calvin and Josie to discuss next week
  1. SCAPA
    • Updates
      • No update
  1. Review Trello: ​https://trello.com/invite/b/67587c515b0c69656ee78b48/ATTIe86f94b24e3e5884e4cb87e5ed3b89ab64321B83/poplar
  1. DoNM
    • 15/10/26
  1. AoB
  • Funds
    • Have £5k
    • Ken meeting this afternoon to discuss £14k Imperial money

Summary of actions required

In-Beam Diagnostics

  • Unassigned: Acquire a glass sheet
  • Unassigned: Get a new RCF batch and calibrate
  • SdL: Simulate energy deposited in transport fibres
  • KL, CD, JMcG, SdL: Design a system to make full scifi prototypes
  • KL, CD, JMcG, SdL: Make a full scifi prototype
  • KL, CD, JMcG, SdL: Discuss visit to Birmingham to test SciFi
  • RW, CD: Study the correlation between laser diagnostics and mean dose
  • CW: Investigate the feasibility of ICTs for our beamline
  • MH: Investigate LET detector
  • CW: Ask Narender about air fluorescence implementation
  • JMcG: Investigate using IF as a dosimeter
  • GS, RH: Investigate fast electron diagnostic
  • TP: Investigating commerical delaminated EBT4

Bio Next Steps

  • EM, CD, JMcG: Write up technical summary of Phase 2
  • EM, MB, RA, JMcG: Write up a biology plan for a 2 PMQ setup
  • Unassigned: Obtain an inverted microscope
  • Unassigned: Obtain multi-chamber haemocytometers (Might be able to use Birmingham's)
  • Unassigned: Obtain a thermostat for the incubator
  • EM: Send cells to Rosh and Marie
  • EM, MB, RA, JMcG: Run controls to examine how long the cells can survive vertically
  • CW, AM: Show Alex around SCAPA
  • MB, RA: Send specifications of and transwells to Tony to test at Birmingham
    • DONE
  • MB, RA: Test transwells with x-rays
  • KL: Share paper with interesting cell dishes (RCF sandwich)
    • DONE

Beamline Modelling

  • Unassigned: Investigate how to improve the beamline beyond CV=8%
    • DONE
  • CD: Examine energy spectra variation
  • JMcG, ED: Discuss spectra fits and SCAPA source divergence
  • JMcG: Talk to Darsebury to get more information on sensible dipole parameters
    • DONE

Alternate Beamlines

  • JMcG: Simulate BELLA
  • JMcG: Simulate ELI
  • CD: Planning doc for ELI

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