wiki:Research/LhARA/RadiationBiology/Meetings/2026-09-03

LhARA Radiobiology Meeting: 03Sep26; 14:00 BST

ZOOM: https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1

Meeting Agenda

  1. Alternate Beamlines
    • ELI proposal feedback
      • Got rejected for several reasons but most are things we can deal with and the evaluators were generally positive and encouraged resubmission
      • Next proposals for ELI have a deadline in October
        • Beamtime next year
      • Ken checking whether ELIMED is part of that
      • Calvin to make a planning document so we can list the challenges and fill out how we will deal with them
        • Discuss with ELI instrumentation team to make acceptance as likely as possible
      • Discussion on beam energy
        • Marie and Rosh have done a gap analysis and found one looking at <10MeV protons
        • Fear that focussing on lower energy will not appeal to ELI since they have the technology to reach 60MeV
        • ELI also appears to have lower beam quality as you go to lower energy
        • Jason has comparison at Clatterbridge for 60MeV and 28MeV
        • Could suggest higher energies but also no clear indication that lower energy was a reason we got rejected since we did not mention beam energy in the original submission
  1. BioPrep
    • Ken and Josie did a review
      • Ken showed a figure showing cell death and very little difference between laser-driven and conventional but also multi-pulse and single shots
        • Aim should be to improve on this
    • Rosh and Marie have done a gap analysis
      • They need to get the cells from Birmingham to start doing tests on transwells and the carousel
      • Rosh has started defrosting cells
      • They have also started looking at clever cell dish designs
      • Ken found one with RCF sandwiched in between that he will send over to them
    • Transwells are made for certain sizes: 12mm or 24mm
      • 12mm would make more sense for us
      • Requires at least 3 replicates
      • Marie to test this with the x-ray irradiator
      • Investigate if they get enough cells
      • Smaller dish also means more beam to use for instrumentation
      • Need a technical document on the transwells as well
      • Marie to send specifications of the transwells to Tony.
      • Send some to Birmingham so Tony (Emma) can test the transwells there as well.
  1. Instrumentation
    • RCF
      • Updates on EBT4 delaminated
      • Asked but everyone been on holiday
    • The self-attempts were not working too well
    • SciFi
      • Calvin collecting the camera equipment to test from QMUL
      • Ken, Josie and Calvin to meet tomorrow to take this forward
  1. Beamline Simulations
    • Fatima has joined us who works at ELI-NP
      • Going to help simulate ELI and Josie will try and reproduce her simulations
    • Josie waiting on Ewan and Robbie to return to understand her simulations further and get some more information
    • Josie has been talking to Hywel about the dipole designs
  1. SCAPA
    • Updates
  1. Review Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/67587c515b0c69656ee78b48/ATTIe86f94b24e3e5884e4cb87e5ed3b89ab64321B83/poplar
  1. DoNM
    • 17/09/26
  1. AoB
  • WELCOME FATIMA!!!

Summary of actions required

In-Beam Diagnostics

  • Unassigned: Acquire a glass sheet
  • Unassigned: Get a new RCF batch and calibrate
  • TP: Testing delaminating EBT3
  • PH: Obtain transparent fibre or an alternative method for light transport
  • PH: Obtain a lens for hollow fibre tests
  • CD: Simulate energy deposited in transport fibres
  • KL, CD, JMcG, PH: Design a system to make full scifi prototypes
  • KL, CD, JMcG, PH: Make a full scifi prototype
  • KL, CD: Send clear fibre to SCAPA before 16th August (Contact Ewan or Colin since Robbie is USA)
  • KL, CD, JMcG, PH: Discuss visit to Birmingham to test SciFi
  • RW, CD: Study the correlation between laser diagnostics and mean dose
  • Unassigned: Investigate how a phosphor sheet could be incorporated into the design of the cell dish
  • CW: Investigate the feasibility of ICTs for our beamline
  • MH: Investigate LET detector
  • CW: Ask Narender about air fluorescence implementation
  • JMcG: Investigate using IF as a dosimeter
  • GS, RH: Investigate fast electron diagnostic
  • TP: Investigating commerical delaminated EBT4

Bio Next Steps

  • EM, CD, JMcG: Write up technical summary of Phase 2
  • EM: Write up a biology plan for a 2 PMQ setup
  • Unassigned: Obtain an inverted microscope
  • Unassigned: Obtain multi-chamber haemocytometers (Might be able to use Birmingham's)
  • Unassigned: Obtain a thermostat for the incubator
  • EM: Send cells to Rosh and Marie
  • EM, MB, RA: Run controls to examine how long the cells can survive vertically
  • JMcG: Plan a test of vertical cell survival using Emma/Jason's HeLa cell line and Marie's cell line
  • JMcG: Produce a HeLa colony that can survive on Mylar
  • CW, AM: Show Alex around SCAPA
  • MB, RA: Send specifications of and transwells to Tony to test at Birmingham
  • MB, RA: Test transwells with x-rays
  • KL: Share paper with interesting cell dishes (RCF sandwich)

Beamline Modelling

  • Unassigned: Investigate how to improve the beamline beyond CV=8%
  • CD: Examine energy spectra variation
  • JMcG, ED: Discuss spectra fits and SCAPA source divergence
  • JMcG: Talk to Darsebury to get more information on sensible dipole parameters

Alternate Beamlines

  • JMcG: Simulate BELLA
  • JMcG: Simulate ELI
  • CD: Plannig doc for ELI

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