wiki:Research/LhARA/RadiationBiology/Meetings/2026-15-14

LhARA radiobiology; meeting: 14May26; 14:00 GMT

ZOOM: https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1

Attended: PH, JMcG, MB, TP, CD, (KL)

Meeting Notes

Plan for PoPLaR

  1. Next SCAPA beamtime
    • Dates: July/August
    • Determine a baseline:
      • A baseline of repeating phase 2 cell irradiations was set
  1. Aim for October
    • Paper
      • Aim for a physics publication with reference to the biology results
    • Add to Phase 3 plan:
      • Comet analysis provides DNA damage results and relatively easy to complete but requires more cell irradiations
        • Neutral and alkaline analyses seem the best to study single- and double-strand breaks
        • Also see the variation across the cell dish
      • Compare this and the clonogenics to the cyclotron irradiation
    • Questions to answer:
      • Is the spatial variation acceptable?
  1. Aim for Post-October
    • Desired work/papers
      • Include IF but it is unnecessary to do in Phase 3 due to the additional irradiations required
      • X-ray comparison: Feasible to be included in Phase 3
        • Would reproduce the same irradiation conditions (time out of incubator and vertical irradiation) as laser-driven protons
    • What do we need to know before we can plan more
      • Pre-proton electrons:
        • Could explore using the dipoles to remove these
        • Have finance for the dipole but need stands so unlikely to be Phase 3
      • LET measurement
        • LET detector researched but unknown if it will be available for Phase 3
  1. ELI
    • Almost certainly post-October and ran out of time to properly discuss how this can be included in the plan.
  1. Review steps required
    • Plan on Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTARVtxhLRu02S6CLdRDB2QlGvCqDfZ3aWBifjIFs_Q/edit?usp=sharing
    • Steps on Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/67587c515b0c69656ee78b48/ATTIe86f94b24e3e5884e4cb87e5ed3b89ab64321B83/poplar
    • Updates:
      • Diagnostics:
        • RCF:
          • Tony is delaminating some RCF and will compare with the delaminated EBT3 Mark supplied.
          • If we provide a batch we will use at SCAPA Tony can test this as well and do the calibration.
          • Suggestion that X-ray calibration removes the high-LET saturation effect.
          • Marie has offered to do the RCF calibration prior to travelling up
        • SciFi:
          • Peter has found a source for hollow fibre.
            • Cost: £300-400 for 15m, though Peter has money that can be put towards that.
            • Could do with a simulation to provide an order of magnitude estimate on the energy deposited on transport fibres
          • Tony has offered Birmingham to test the fibres before SCAPA
            • Make a package of everything we need and take to Birmingham
            • Also, would be able to test using a fibre around the cell dish here
              • Keep this simple at the start and just use one fibre
      • Bio:
        • Could potentially borrow Marie's inverted microscope but depends on other lab users
        • Marie is keen to meet up with Jason and Emma to help organise a dry run or testing on the control cell survival
  1. DoNM
    • 21/05/26?
  1. AoB
    • IPAC submitted

Summary of actions required

In-Beam Diagnostics

  • CD, TP: Refine evaluations of LET in the cells with the RCF in front
    • DONE
  • CD: Predict the cell dish dose from the RCF in front of it
    • DONE
  • PH, CD: Initial measurements of sci-fi arrays
    • DONE
  • CD/KL: Provide plan for Master's students who will count photons from UV source for sci-fi arrays
    • DONE
  • Unassigned: Acquire a glass sheet
  • Unassigned: Get a new RCF batch and calibrate
  • PH: Investigate how to get the light out of the vacuum chamber
  • CD: Simulate energy deposited in transport fibres
  • KL, CD, JMcG, PH: Make a full scifi prototype
  • KL, CD, JMcG, PH: Discuss visit to Birmingham to test SciFi
  • RW, CD: Study correlation between laser diagnostics and mean dose
  • Unassigned: Investigate how a phosphor sheet could be incorporated into the design of the cell dish

Bio Next Steps

  • CD: Gather ideas for improving cell survival
    • DONE
  • EM, CD, JMcG: Write up technical summary of Phase 2
  • EM: Write up a biology plan for a 2 PMQ setup
  • Unassigned: Obtain an inverted microscope
  • Unassigned: Obtain multi-chamber haemocytometers (Might be able to use Birmingham's)
  • MB, JP, MB: Meet up to plan cell survival dry run
  • EM*: Run controls to examine how long the cells can survive vertically

Beamline Modelling

  • CD: Find LET for different energies in the cell dish
    • DONE
  • RW: Examine energy spectra variation
  • RW, CD: Source characterisation

Other Beamlines

  • EM: Coordinate ELIMED bid
    • DONE
  • JMcG: Simulate BELLA
  • JMcG: Simulate ELI

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