LhARA radiobiology; meeting: 14May26; 14:00 GMT
ZOOM: https://imperial-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98220889714?pwd=SM90vOF7BKSXoU3mD9q7OwBQo4IVB3.1
Attended: PH, JMcG, MB, TP, CD, (KL)
Meeting Notes
Plan for PoPLaR
- Next SCAPA beamtime
- Dates: July/August
- Determine a baseline:
- A baseline of repeating phase 2 cell irradiations was set
- Aim for October
- Paper
- Aim for a physics publication with reference to the biology results
- Add to Phase 3 plan:
- Comet analysis provides DNA damage results and relatively easy to complete but requires more cell irradiations
- Neutral and alkaline analyses seem the best to study single- and double-strand breaks
- Also see the variation across the cell dish
- Compare this and the clonogenics to the cyclotron irradiation
- Comet analysis provides DNA damage results and relatively easy to complete but requires more cell irradiations
- Questions to answer:
- Is the spatial variation acceptable?
- Paper
- Aim for Post-October
- Desired work/papers
- Include IF but it is unnecessary to do in Phase 3 due to the additional irradiations required
- X-ray comparison: Feasible to be included in Phase 3
- Would reproduce the same irradiation conditions (time out of incubator and vertical irradiation) as laser-driven protons
- What do we need to know before we can plan more
- Pre-proton electrons:
- Could explore using the dipoles to remove these
- Have finance for the dipole but need stands so unlikely to be Phase 3
- LET measurement
- LET detector researched but unknown if it will be available for Phase 3
- Pre-proton electrons:
- Desired work/papers
- ELI
- Almost certainly post-October and ran out of time to properly discuss how this can be included in the plan.
- Review steps required
- Plan on Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTARVtxhLRu02S6CLdRDB2QlGvCqDfZ3aWBifjIFs_Q/edit?usp=sharing
- Steps on Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/67587c515b0c69656ee78b48/ATTIe86f94b24e3e5884e4cb87e5ed3b89ab64321B83/poplar
- Updates:
- Diagnostics:
- RCF:
- Tony is delaminating some RCF and will compare with the delaminated EBT3 Mark supplied.
- If we provide a batch we will use at SCAPA Tony can test this as well and do the calibration.
- Suggestion that X-ray calibration removes the high-LET saturation effect.
- Marie has offered to do the RCF calibration prior to travelling up
- SciFi:
- Peter has found a source for hollow fibre.
- Cost: £300-400 for 15m, though Peter has money that can be put towards that.
- Could do with a simulation to provide an order of magnitude estimate on the energy deposited on transport fibres
- Tony has offered Birmingham to test the fibres before SCAPA
- Make a package of everything we need and take to Birmingham
- Also, would be able to test using a fibre around the cell dish here
- Keep this simple at the start and just use one fibre
- Peter has found a source for hollow fibre.
- RCF:
- Bio:
- Could potentially borrow Marie's inverted microscope but depends on other lab users
- Marie is keen to meet up with Jason and Emma to help organise a dry run or testing on the control cell survival
- Diagnostics:
- DoNM
- 21/05/26?
- AoB
- IPAC submitted
Summary of actions required
In-Beam Diagnostics
- CD, TP: Refine evaluations of LET in the cells with the RCF in front
- DONE
- CD: Predict the cell dish dose from the RCF in front of it
- DONE
- PH, CD: Initial measurements of sci-fi arrays
- DONE
- CD/KL: Provide plan for Master's students who will count photons from UV source for sci-fi arrays
- DONE
- Unassigned: Acquire a glass sheet
- Unassigned: Get a new RCF batch and calibrate
- PH: Investigate how to get the light out of the vacuum chamber
- CD: Simulate energy deposited in transport fibres
- KL, CD, JMcG, PH: Make a full scifi prototype
- KL, CD, JMcG, PH: Discuss visit to Birmingham to test SciFi
- RW, CD: Study correlation between laser diagnostics and mean dose
- Unassigned: Investigate how a phosphor sheet could be incorporated into the design of the cell dish
Bio Next Steps
- CD: Gather ideas for improving cell survival
- DONE
- EM, CD, JMcG: Write up technical summary of Phase 2
- EM: Write up a biology plan for a 2 PMQ setup
- Unassigned: Obtain an inverted microscope
- Unassigned: Obtain multi-chamber haemocytometers (Might be able to use Birmingham's)
- MB, JP, MB: Meet up to plan cell survival dry run
- EM*: Run controls to examine how long the cells can survive vertically
Beamline Modelling
- CD: Find LET for different energies in the cell dish
- DONE
- RW: Examine energy spectra variation
- RW, CD: Source characterisation
Other Beamlines
- EM: Coordinate ELIMED bid
- DONE
- JMcG: Simulate BELLA
- JMcG: Simulate ELI
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